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All Free Nations Must Mandate Inquiry into Intolerant Faiths!
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Editor’s note: On March 10, 2011 US Representative Peter King opened Congressional hearings about radicalization in the Muslim American community. The New York congressman says the threat of homegrown terrorism is on the rise and American Muslims aren’t doing enough to stop it. Author of this blog tries to explore – Why Governmental inquisitions on Islam must be an imperative for every democracy.
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Please allow me to preface this article by stating that what I write here is not just an opinion based on other secondary opinions, but based on my direct experience with Muslims during my life in India, the U.S. and visits to Africa. In the course of the last decade, I have been subjected to their reductionism, that Muslims have been known for, towards non-Muslims, by seemingly the most moderate of Muslims, nurtured in north Africa and Europe. I have suffered their bigotry, Intolerance, discrimination, outright disrespect, hostility, demands to convert, asked repeatedly why I was not a Muslim, was cheated and lied to, and deliberately misinformed, with utter want of civility. This is not some vacuous and venomous opinionizing, neither is it a catharsis of my prejudice, but simple facts, as I had experienced, along with my Hindu Pandit friend, who actually referred to them rabid-savage people, after being among them only ten days in a Muslim country. We also found an antipodean alchemy of “arrogant ignorance” in their disposition; this phenomenon is an invisible bubble they live under, in isolation, from any “bad” influences of the 21st century outside. We also, astoundingly, were asked in their village “how can there be anything other than Muslims in the world?”
Any religion that issues fatwas and attacks people for speaking the truth and their freedom of speech must be subjected more than just inquisitions. More than anything, it must become a referendum on why radical Muslims must be put under a microscope for their intentions on all the non-believers and free nations. A manifest double standard exists in the Muslim world over how they react and treat similar issues. Afghanis, wearing foreboding beards and billowing tunics, running in the streets, throwing tantrums like spoiled brats over the burning of a Quran in Florida, few days ago, destroying their own towns in rabid insanity. The scenes in Afghanistan reveal to us how dangerously ignorant and primitive these people are. When the Muslims, besides all the killings, desecrate, destroy and pillage Christian churches, Like the ones in Iraq and Egypt recently, Indian temples in West Bengal few months ago or the Giant Buddhist Bamyan statues 1500 years old without any provocation what-so-ever, to which, the reaction is restrained at best, with civil statements of protest from the victims. Should we protest like them, essentially like infantile savages with no restraint what so ever? Can they ever understand and live with the concept of diversity or disagreement? Can we stop, once and for all, coddling their tantrums with political correctness and cowardice? Can we just tell them “shut up and deal with it…just like we deal with your shit!” I doubt it.
Let me explain for those who simply cannot understand or choose to live in denial. The precepts of these faiths, that take on the air of exclusivity of a club, can engender and inculcate hate and violence towards non-believers or non-members to such an extent, it becomes embedded in their cultural DNA and gets passed on in the genes from generation to generation. This hypothesis had already been proven and affirmed by genetic researchers, neuroscientists and psychologists. If you are acolytes of intolerant faiths, your individual identity is no more important. Only that you are reduced to an ardent henchman and follower of the dictates of that faith. In other words, your identity and soul are “confiscated,” your reasoning or rationale are obliterated by brainwashing, solely for the propagation of that faith. You become a rabid mechanism for the religion, a mechanism for propaganda, proselytizing, procreation and war. This they call radicalism, but I disagree, it is rather the mainstream with younger acolytes in their intolerant world.
Their radicalism is nothing to do with philosophical contemplation or a spiritual inquiry into the truth(s) around us, like coexistence, natural diversity or a higher form of life spent in peace, renunciation or giving. The obdurate and inscrutable teachings of the intolerant faiths and their leaders have only one whole objective and purpose, to convert or annihilate the non-believers. If anything else is believed, it is our own myopic denials and political obscurantism.
The real human qualities of humaneness, kindness, compassion, acquiescence, empathy, compromise, and tolerance are replaced with dissimulative qualities of reduction, intolerance, hate, misogyny and violence. Intolerant faiths have the tendencies of a pathogen that attack basic human qualities and turns their acolytes from soulful beings to robotic ghouls. Intolerant faiths develop intense loathing of non-believers, enough hate go around marauding to convert or kill the infidel. On a larger scale acolytes of these intolerant faiths behave like malignant cancer cells within a healthy free society and nation, overwhelming them from within, by multiplying and metastasizing fast and undermining the very system that hosts them. Here, analogy becomes a powerful tool in explicating such bio-political-religious concepts.
The precedent was set few years ago by the Dutch parliamentarian, Geert Wilders, who demanded an inquiry into the effect of Islamic teachings and the Trojan Horse that Islam represented in the west with its insidious extremists and the silent supporters labeled erroneously by the main stream media as moderate Muslims. A predominant quality of the immigrant Muslim is that they come equipped with an arrogant ignorance, which they assiduously nurture while enjoying the benefits of the host culture and nation. This arrogant ignorance also has an accompanying quality and that is the utter lack of gratitude for the welcoming nation within the Muslims. I suppose, their attitude is a deliberate design towards victimhood that enables them to isolation and dissimulation.
First of all, an inquiry into any religion signals two things, the shame and attention it brings upon its followers, focusing on the malignancy of its followers to warrant such an investigation by a nation’s legislative body, supported by other groups. But, there is no shame within the followers of Islam, because they do not respect non-believer-infidel value systems, who they consider as fodder for conversion or annihilation. Muslim population within any democratic western or eastern nation is a Trojan Horse, their sole purpose is to subvert, undermine, devalue and destroy the very values that welcomed them in the first place, to install Islamic laws.
On March 10, 2011 US Representative Peter King opened Congressional hearings about radicalization in the Muslim American community. Peter King’s intensions and agenda was clear a summer day’s sky. The congressional inquiry was to gauge the spread of the Radical Islam. Why not just say Islam? It’s a great idea, but with major flaws. You don’t summon in Muslims for interrogation or public inquisition. They will simply and deftly hijack the process with great demagoguery and propaganda making themselves look like the victims and the inquisitors as villains. And that is what exactly happened. Rep. Keith Maurice Ellison, a Muslim congressman from the state of Minnesota put on a great show for the main stream media, and they swallowed it hook-and-line. This inquisition was flawed, the organizer, Peter King, was way in over his head against a Muslim’s skilled skullduggery and diversion into rhetorical emotionalism that generally derailed any rational inquiry, turning the inquirers into a villains, and putting them on the defensive.
In my humble opinion Mr. Peter King should have summoned the following folks to answer the questions on radical Islam and for that matter Muslim atrocities in general. The folks, who should have been invited to speak before the Congress on Islamic radicalism and Muslim atrocities across the globe would be: 1. The Hindus remaining in Pakistan, Bangladesh and other Muslim nations, 2. The displaced Kashmiri Hindus, 3. The Coptic Christians in Egypt, 4. The Christians in Lebanon, Iran and Iraq, 5. The English folks in Muslim neighborhoods in England, 6. The French-German-Danish-Swedish-Dutch folks living next to the Muslim Ghettos in their towns and cities and, 7. The Israelis in their bordering towns. Or any minority groups being subjected to Muslim atrocities. These folks would have painted a more accurate picture on the activities of the followers of Islam.
Mr. King also, should have invited many folks that have escaped the clutches of Islam and were able to write their experiences in poignant memoirs. Some memoirs have seared our psyches with images of Islamic abuse and the bestial nature of Muslims. Brigitte Gabriel’s “Because They hate,” Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s “The Caged Virgin,” and “Infidel” and Noni Darwish’s “Now They Call me Infidel” are such books that urge us, the free, to such inquisitions, and inquisitions are not enough. The Muslim communities in free nations must not be allowed to operate under Islamic or sharia laws, they must be subjected to the nation’s constitutional laws. If they do not follow the law of the land, they must be deported. These are the only measures that will sustain and safeguard our free and civil ways of life. What has taken place in Europe must never be allowed here. “Eurabia” The Euro-Arab Axis by Bat Ye’or is a must read for those who still have a problem digesting the portents of Islamic Dhimmitude.
On the Islamic side, they should have invited Gilani, the founder of Islamburg and other Jihadist camps, the Iranian president, the outspoken Mullahs from Europe and the U.S with their agendas, also, Muslim students from various universities here. The last thing Mr. King should have done is to give the microphone to an Islamic PR specialist like Rep. Ellison. This unfortunately turned the inquisition upside down, despite it being a good idea. But these hearings managed to show the insidious finesse of the Muslims on the world stage, whether we grasp the implications or not, this could have been a great inquiry if the aforementioned victims of Muslim violence were given a chance to speak out.
We will never get the facts from Muslims, especially, when they are not in the majority, and when they are in majority, their actions speak for themselves. They are sanctioned and decreed by their faith to lie to the non-believers and never to learn or assimilate with them. So, if they look and appear as peaceful, friendly, tolerant and acquiescing victims, it is by design, to hoodwink the gullible amongst us, especially the ones in the media, so Al-Jazeera can splash it in the Arab world showing how the westerners or non-believers discriminate against the Muslims and subject them to humiliation. Here is an antipodean reality-the concept of shame and honor within the Muslim communities is to kill for, but, they do not feel any shame whatsoever at all when it comes to their activities against non-believers, they lie, cheat, steal and even kill to attain advantage over the non-believers. This is why there must be organized inquisitions by authorities.
Angela Merkel had thrown the gauntlet, declaring that “multiculturalism does not work” indirectly referring to their Muslim conundrum in Germany. The French premier, Sarkosy also echoed Merkel’s sentiments in no uncertain terms. These statements were mainly aimed at the Muslims, the true aliens, who had not assimilated into their national makeup and societies in two generations. Rather they, the Muslims, continue to exploit the resources of their host nations, and have become malignant cancer cells within their national bodies, which they, the indigenous, now want to purge. The Muslims become a separate nation with a nation, undermining the very laws that accepted them. They are what ecologists refer to as non-native species that do harm to the native species and their culture. Muslims proliferate rapidly and occupy the habitats of native species, atrophying their resources, suffocating them from access to food and procreation, eventually displacing or rendering them extinct.
Victims of Muslim atrocities, If given a chance to speak in front of the Congress and the world stage, would have given Mr. King and his commission an inordinate amount of information on the planning, schematics and tactics, in short, the playbook used by Muslims amidst democratic nations to undermine, subvert and obfuscate the laws and use them against the host nation. We also would have known, at what critical mass would the Muslims start their demands against the laws of the non-believers and their nation. It took only a 10%, the Muslims, in the French population to inflict massive damage on the French cities after France had banned the head scarf in schools. We need to remember that not every Muslim is a terrorist, but almost every terrorist is a Muslim. If we are to protect our civil ways of life we need to act exigently and have more of these intelligence gathering interrogations that could lead to the right actions in protecting our civil ways.
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Refreshing style of writing – no timidness here – muslims are called muslims and not the torturous “minority community” found in so many Indian newspapers. My own observation is that when atrocities are comitted in the name of Islam, it is blamed by “moderate muslims” on radical elements. When the authorities try to do something about the “radical elements” then the entire community claims persecution. The author is right – they are one and act in concert for a common purpose.
An important reason for the spread of Islam is it is easily identifiable to the common man whereas understanding Hinduism
requires a reasonable amount of intelligence.This is the reason why one hears of Mike Tyson converting to Islam at some point and not Hinduism.The supports that led
to the spread and growth of Islam were-
1)Sex-A muslim is allowed upto 4 wives.This is free license to have sex anywhere in the world he is.
2)FOOD-A muslim is allowed to eat everything except pork.
3)Jihad-It gives a tremendous amount of power to the average man
Why dont you fix your religion first,worry about Islam later,cant you see what the caste system has been doing to all of you,it is an aparthide system which turns the lower caste Hindus into sub-humans (untouchables) ,take care of this first then rant about Islam!
Observer:
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
We know Caste is alive and well in ISlam. Do your Ashrafs and Ailafs intermarry?
Also, tell us about the divinely sanctioned hatred of the ‘Other’ by Islam.
B.t.w Caste has no religious sanction. No Hindu scripture(sruti) condones that. Unlike slavery, which has a divine sanction in Koran.
Malavika,You talk about that “hatered of others” in Islam,then how can one explain those people converting to Islam in droves in USA and Europe.Each year in USA alone 30,000+ Americans of all creeds are flocking to Islam,in England the coversion to Islam has doubled last year and the icing on the cake is the most of them are highly educated professional women.If you remember few months back the Ex prime minister of England Tony Blair’s sister in law converted to Islam,why don’t we hear the same thing about Hinduism,any comments!
Yeah, people also flock to fast food and pay the price…anything sold agressively, like used cars are brought by gullable people…all you have to do is market it, and it will be brought. Pet-rock was sold in nice packaging and people paid money to buy this trash. People who flock to religions and convert are basically ignorant folks devoid and inner guidance. The cheapest cars are agressively sold…like proselytizing religions do, but the Rolls-Royces are never sold agressively, they are brought by the ones who know quality without having been told or sold about it. While ignorant people convert to sold religions, the educated respect the ones that are not sold everyday…
Hello Raju,
I have been reading your articles since recently and I think that through this article, you have hit the nail on the head.
And Observer –
Here is a very interesting video of Muslims in Indonesia beating up another Muslim (Ahmediya) after declaring the latter to be a non-Muslim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMtwfFmFwN0
Explain this before talking about Caste system on Hindus.
Malviya –
Thank you for posting your comments. Here are some wonderful quotes from the Koran worth memorizing —
“[5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned”
“kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), slay them (9:5), fight with them (8:65 ), strive against them with great endeavor (25:52)
“strike off their heads; then after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives” for ransom (47:4).”
I as a Hindu accept that casteism and untouchability played a part in many Hindus converting to Islam ages ago.But force ,incentives and coercion by the Mughals and the Muslim invaders too played a part.
Fool me once, shame on you;Fool me twice ,shame on me.Your example about “selling anything aggressively “does not hold ground as all the western media has been doing this negative propaganda against Islam 24/7,and gues what?Which book was the best seller in west after 9/11………..Quran!YES.So what is that attracts people to Islam and specially the females,my friend its not the “aggressive selling” ,it is the teachings and the spirituality and the way of life that is taught by Quran/Islam.People like last commentators are the bigots that present facts out of the context (or they copy & paste rubbish from other bigoted sources),i can qoute so many writings from your holy books that will make your head spinning in disbelief.Again,get your house in order first before you point fingures at others,always remember this if you point one fingure at someone, then you are pointing three fingures towards you.
Observer,
Why do momins lie so much?
show some evidence of ” people converting to Islam in droves in USA and Europe.Each year in USA alone 30,000+ Americans of all creeds are flocking to Islam,in England the coversion to Islam has doubled last year ”
Your assertions are worthless, without any evidence. And there are lots of apostates too.
Have you heard of Julia Roberts?
Vik said:
“as a Hindu accept that casteism and untouchability played a part in many Hindus converting to Islam ages ago.But force ,incentives and coercion by the Mughals and the Muslim invaders too played a part.”
Islam has caste system too. Ashrafs and Ailafs do not intermarry. Do you think Pak is a paradise?
House of Islam has caste and Slavery. Koran gives divine sanction to slavery. Their prophet himself killed all young men of tribe Banu Quraiza an sold the hapless women and children as slaves. So, the doctrine of total war on civilians with divine sanction(ofcouse) was statred by Prophet of Islam.
After all these gross inhumanity these Islamists have the Chutzpah to don the mantle of ‘human rights’
Malavika,for once come out of your cave that you are living in ,there is a thing called “search engines” or even better have you ever heard of “Google”,try that and find yourself amazed ,and also stop spending time on bogus sites like hindounity where you get bigoted ,concocted and biased information about Islam (like the one you just put in your last comment),this tells me who you are and where you are comming from,if you really want to know the truth (which i highly doubt)just let me know,i will try to guide you.
Observer,
You still did not show any evidence of your claims. You should back up your claims not me. I lived in US long enough to see through your BS.
So, your claims about ’30,000 people converting’ is a shameless lie.
My information is from USC muslim students associations books and more precisely Ibn Ishaq Sira. Let us what your prophet did to Banu Qurayza and how Rihana(Rayhana) became his concubine.
To Malavika,here are some videolinks that every Hindu must see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDdR7G7d-k4&feature=email
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI1fM23A_1Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t7bjou9zPM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kUP-XdxwP0&feature=related
Also check these out:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/22/national/22CONV.html
http://www.islamfortoday.com/searchingamericans.htm
http://turntoislam.com/
http://www.islamfortoday.com/ambassador02.htm
I hope it will make you understand the Islam a little better.
BhAratiya, you should watch this 7 parts video made by a Hindu journalist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we6gRbHBFsc&p=CD4608237CCFD85A
What happened to my reply,to hot for your comfort????
Observer what reply?
What did your prophet do to the tribe of Quraiza?
Kill all the male members and enslave the women and children. He was a slave trade. How old was Ayesha when he consumated relationship with her?
How come no one here refutes my charges?
Actually Muslims are burning Korans too ahem!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=995_1302545265
watchdog,
Stop watching so many propaganda videos and read and think.
Your Allah, is a Jannat (72+18) keeper. Jannat is nothing but Al fresco bordello (Sam Harris, Author of End of Faith). So, you Allah is ???.
B.t.w, there is no Jannat. Your Koran was wrong about origin of earth, human life, life of earth etc. Your Koran surely wrong about After life too!
So again,first get your house in order then throw stones at others.
Mr. or Ms. observer,
Mind your language on this Forum. Your comment with word “scoundrel” was deleted.
Thanks.
Admin
Ok Admin,here is my response again,only this time witout the word “scoundrel”……… and i apologize for that error!
Malavika,you are acting like a champion of women and children rights,let me ask about your opinion about the following,what do you have to say about Rama’s ruthless persecution of women according to Vedas.As per standard versions of the Ramayana, Rama was 16 years old when he married Sita, and Sita was only 14 years old [ Ram.wh 69 ]. However, these are later, forged versions where the Brahmins have deliberately deleted incriminating passages proving that Rama married Sita when she was 6 years old. As per the oldest extant versions of the Ramayana, namely the Buddhist Ramayana, the marriage was performed as per Manu-Smrti, and Sita was only 6 years old when the Rama forcefully had sex with her. What do you say about “marrying” a “6″ year old baby.
Later on these items were deleted by the Vaishnava Brahmans in yet another attempt to perpetrate historical fraud. However, the truth has finally been dug out since the Buddhist Ramayana is older than the extant Vaishnava versions, and preserve the facts which were later suppressed by the Aryan Vaishnava fundamentalists. Rama was, besides being guilty of the mass murder of Sudra Blacks, introducing apartheid and supporting fascism, guilty of incest and child-marriage. So any explanation on this Sir or this is a propaganda too?
This observer is a funny and typical momin character. observer cite as many as examples as you want from Ramayana to Mahabharata to any religious character but you WILL fail BECAUSE NO HINDU PERSON OR PEOPLE TRY AND FOLLOW THAT EXAMPLE. UNLIKE MUSLIM MEN WHO TRY AND FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF PROPHET RIGHT FROM TRYING TO MARRY A OLD WIDOW (RICH) OR TRY AND RAPE A 6 YEAR OLD AND TRY TO MARRY HER.I CAN CITE MANY SUCH INSTANCES , ITS HINDU LEARNED BRAHMIN FRIENDS OF B R AMBEDKAR WHO SIDED WITH HIM. HIS HINDU BRAHMIN TEACHER TOLD HIM TO TAKE HIS NAME OTHER WISE HIS NAME WAS SAKPAL IT WAS NOT ANY MUSLIM FRIENDS WHO SIDED WITH HIM. ACCEPT YOUR DEFEAT GRACEFULLY , YOU MUST HAVE SEEN NO HINDU SUPPORTS CASTE SYSTEM BUT YOU UPHOLD ALL CRIMES COMMITED BY PROPHET.THATS WHAT IS HINDUISM.
Observer,
You are a liar. Rama married 16 year old Sita in a Swayamvar organized by Sita’s father King Janaka.
Fool, there is no such nonsense in Valmiki, KAmbha or other Ramayanas. Perhaps in your delusion you are confusing your Hadiths with Valmiki Ramayana.
Lifting nonsense from Paki news group shows your pathetic desperation.
“http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/594-582.aspx”
My opinion, you are Shameless liar. Your entire post is a fabrication.
I knew the truth will hit where it hurts the most,now let me bring some information about lord Brahma,and see what you have to say about that! Brahma is one of the 3 main gods – Trimurti – of the Hindu pantheon. He is the creator of the universe. Sarasvati, who became the wife of her own father, was the daughter of Brahma. There are 2 stories about her genesis in the `Saraswati Purana’. One is that Brahma created his beautiful daughter Saraswati direct from his `vital strength’ or seminal fluid. The other is that Brahma used to collect his semen in a pot whenever he masturbated fixing his eyes on the celestial beauty Urvasi. Brahma’s semen in the pot gave birth to the sage Agastya, and Agastya in turn gave birth to Saraswati. Thus, Saraswati had no mother.
This daughter or grand-daughter of Brahma is the Hindu goddess of learning. When Brahma saw the beauty of Saraswati he became amorous. To escape from her father’s passionate approach Saraswati ran to the lands in all four directions, but she could not escape from her father. She succumbed to Brahma’s wish. Brahma and his daughter Saraswati lived as husband and wife indulging in incest for 100 years. They had a son Swayambhumaru and a daughter Satarupa. THrough the incest of Brahma’s son and daughter Brahma got two grandsons and two grand-daughters.” you can refer to [ Kovoor, p.76 ]
This shows that Brahma considered women merely as objects for sensual fulfullment.Now all this is from your holy scriptures,how can you not follow the writings of your gods like you mentioned earlier that “BECAUSE NO HINDU PERSON OR PEOPLE TRY AND FOLLOW THAT EXAMPLE”,which tells me either you donot believe that god wrote that holy scripture or it is a concocted book,so you be the judge.
Observer,
You are losing it. Take your medication.
This is for Hindus who are guilt tripped by the intolerant faiths of Islam and Christianity regarding Caste System. And worse they after committing innumerable genocides and slavery don the mantle hood of Human Rights.
Islam and Christianity codified Slavery and genocide with divine sanction. Further Islam gives divine sanction to rape of captured women. Their own prophet after Gazwa kept the prettiest for himself and parceled out young women as sex slaves to his men. Koran, Sunnah(Sira and Hadith) give ample testimony for his gangsterism.
According to Ibn Ishaq not some Missionsary and Ishaq is considered an authentic source(sahi):
“Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, ‘Will you never understand? Don’t you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!’ This went on until the apostle made an end of them.”
Then the apostle sent for Sa’d bin Zayd al-Ansari brother of bin Abdul-Ashhal with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons.
Ibn Ishaq (18)
this incident has corroboration
“The Prophet divided the properties, women, and children of Banu Quraiza among the Muslims after he had separated one-fifth for public purposes. Each man of the cavalry received two shares, one for himself and one for his horse. On that day, the Muslim force included thirty-six cavalrymen. Sa’d ibn Zayd al Ansari sent a number of Banu Qurayza captives to Najd where he exchanged them for horses and armour in order to increase Muslim military power.
M.H. Haykal
Mr.ignoramus (malavika),you need to stop cherry picking the information also you need to stop concocting the stories.First study, then qoute the story but WITHIN THE CONTEXT,only then you will really understand (which i highly doubt),but since your goal is just to defame Islam/Muslims there is no point wasting my time and educating you about this subject,have fun in your bigoted little world.
Malavika and Pradeep –
We all appreciate your efforts to try and refute “Observer”‘s claims. But instead of getting on the defensive, keep on going in the offensive. If observer makes stupid claims from Ramayana and Mahabharata, without even quoting whose translation he is reading, what the verse numbers are etc, the onus is on him to back up his stupid and absurd claims with valid evidence, which I am pretty sure he/she is utterly incapable of. Therefore, ignoring such idiots is far better than trying to drill in sense into his senseless head.
But, thank you very very much for supporting your religion and belief.
Observer,
So you agree that your prophet killed all the male members and enslaved the women and children. That is all needed, Ladies and Gentlemen I rest my case.
Tell us the context were genocide is justified?
Perhaps the Kaffirs should apply Sharia and Koran in reverse for Muslims. Just replace ‘believer’ with muslim and vice verse.
malavika,like so many others you too are obsessed by the Islam/Muslim phobia,people like you have nothing better to do than just try to defame the people that ruled you for over a millenia.Seems like that people like you are suffering by the Stockholm syndrome and you can’t let it go no matter how hard you try,you feel solace in mud slinging and pointing fingures at Islam/Muslims,which i take it as another form of flattery,more you do more it pleases me,how come we don’t see this trend (anti Hinduism) generally in Muslims writers or bloggers,you know why because they don’t even care about that,its only defeated mentality of people like you and the writer of above the article and many many other Hindu writers who are obsessed in doing this.You know when ever i come across writtings or comments like yours it reminds me of a National Geographics documentry where they showed a clip of somewhere in Africa some Hyeanas came across a dead lion,they ALL rubbed there coats in the rotting flesh of the lion just to get the scent of Lion,so stop doing this so as to stop making a fool and thus stop making a mockery of your self.
Oberver – you muslims are living in bondage to an assinine and parasitical ideology called islam. It is you who are suffering from the stockholm syndrome since you love your conquerors so much.
That mohammed fellow was a late comer to creating religion and to get legitimacy he claimed that actually the koran was there from the beginning of time but the Jews changed the books. Now you want to apply the same absurd lie to the Hindu books. You are the mentally defeated one – the promised conquest of the world by islam is never going to happen and you know it. As a group you are the least educated and least well off. You have made no contribution to science in the last 900 years. You are heading for oblivion. Why does islam need violence and threats to survive. Because its underpinnings are so assinine and against human nature that it will not survive otherwise. Why can’t you live in peace with anyone.Mohammed perpertrated a con called islam and you are one still deluded by it. Think critically of the religion you are following – don’t be scared – there is no hellfire waiting on the otherside if you do. Liberate yourself as this life is the only one you have.
sam,i don’t understand why the admin did not delete your comments,perhaps they find it to be OK to slander Islam,but any how the last time i checked Islam was the fastest growing religion in the world and a large portion of it was of the voluntery reverts in it,specially in the west women comprise 60% of the reverts to Islam,i don’t hear the same for some “other” religions.It will be a news for you that Arabs make only 15% of the world’s Muslim population,you people will never understand that why Muslims love their religion so much that is why most of are perlexed and bamboozled by Muslim adhesion to their faith.You would no more that every time Dr.Zakir Naik holds a conference in India a bunch of Hindus revert to Islam,could you please explain this to me that why is this happening as according to your comments “Islam is heading to oblivion”,this does not seems at all like that,actually it tells us all that it is an ever growing Riligion.I dont know what are you reading and where you are getting all this bogus hatefull information about Islam which makes you look silly if not worse!
Sam is right! Moslems contribution is nil to science.If Moslems make up the largest contribution in terms of numbers,yet very rarely does one hear of any Muslim winning the Nobel prize.
observer:
This is reply to your post April 22, 2011 at 9:48 AM
“sam,i don’t understand why the admin did not delete your comments,perhaps they find it to be OK”
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Please read your following comments that we allowed on this forum:
Do you think you are praising the religion you are writing about? We still allowed those comments even though they were considered slanderous by several visitors.
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The other is that Brahma used to collect his semen in a pot whenever he masturbated fixing his eyes on the celestial beauty Urvasi. Brahma’s semen in the pot gave birth to the sage Agastya, and Agastya in turn gave birth to Saraswati. Thus, Saraswati had no mother.
When Brahma saw the beauty of Saraswati he became amorous.
Brahma considered women merely as objects for sensual fulfullment.
Rama’s ruthless persecution of women according to Vedas.
Sita was only 6 years old when the Rama forcefully had sex with her.
Rama was, besides being guilty of the mass murder of Sudra Blacks, introducing apartheid and supporting fascism, guilty of incest and child-marriage.
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The whole issue here is about the “intent” – if you read all the posts you shall find that none of the people support the “intolerance” in their posts. In this light if you read your own posts you shall find it otherwise.
We are doing our best to be unbiased and we shall continue to. We have deleted several comments irrespective of the person posting them or the religion they represent. We personally are not interested in any religion. In our view every religion has some issue or other. Our part is to facilitate healthy discussions.
We would request you to stop posting on this forum.
Thanks
Admin
Admins,as long as people are putting false and baseless info about Islam and Muslims i feel obligated to clear that,if you allow writers with bias and hidden agendas to write and display their thoughts,i feel obligated to answer that and i think that is just fair.
observer:
The point here is: You need to stop pretending as a victim. Your comments are no different than others. Read your comments on this post again (below). We are trying to keep the discussions healthy and we shall delete more comments in the future – without any notice or discussions anymore.
You also need to understand that we delete many comments – and once a comment is deleted you DO NOT SEE it.
Read your comments again to understand you are getting too much leverage on this board, therefore you need to stop pretending as a victim.
Do you think these are the comments by a victim that you are trying to pretend yourself? What about others that are complaining about you and how you are slandering other religions and putting false and baseless info about their religion (just as you are saying)?
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The other is that Brahma used to collect his semen in a pot whenever he masturbated fixing his eyes on the celestial beauty Urvasi. Brahma’s semen in the pot gave birth to the sage Agastya, and Agastya in turn gave birth to Saraswati. Thus, Saraswati had no mother.
When Brahma saw the beauty of Saraswati he became amorous.
Brahma considered women merely as objects for sensual fulfullment.
Rama’s ruthless persecution of women according to Vedas.
Sita was only 6 years old when the Rama forcefully had sex with her.
Rama was, besides being guilty of the mass murder of Sudra Blacks, introducing apartheid and supporting fascism, guilty of incest and child-marriage.
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Observer is a typical muslim you find in this world spreading hate and saying he is spreading islam
absolute animals, cant even love other humans
I hope admins delete all the posts of observer and set an example to these hate filled creatures
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